Comments on: Hope Over Fear: Ocean Is Bruised and Battered, But Not Broken http://blog.oceanconservancy.org/2013/10/25/hope-over-fear-ocean-is-bruised-and-battered-but-not-broken/ News, opinions, photos and facts from Ocean Conservancy Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:07:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Stiv Wilson http://blog.oceanconservancy.org/2013/10/25/hope-over-fear-ocean-is-bruised-and-battered-but-not-broken/#comment-2054 Stiv Wilson Thu, 31 Oct 2013 21:17:20 +0000 http://blog.oceanconservancy.org/?p=6880#comment-2054 Thanks for this Nick. I was really displeased with this article as it made the social media rounds.  I've done 20,000 nautical and have seen a Sperm Whale breach, had 1,000s of dolphins surf the boat, A minke whale, a humpback, a pod of Blue Whales, squid, petrels, tuna, dorado, jacks, albatross, rainbow runners, myctophids, turtles, etc...   Sure, the baseline has shifted from threats to the ocean but Ivan's article isn't helpful---  it basically makes people retreat into even more isolated existences;  they give up on community and environment and focus on insulating the family unit from the horrors of the world.  The ocean isn't broken, humanity is-- and the threats we perceive aren't actually a threat to the ocean---they are threats to our own well being as humans, indeed, perhaps even our very existence.  Humans may kill themselves off by continuing this path of unlimited growth from finite resources, but the ocean will rebound and forget we ever walked the earth.  The meme of pieces like this need to focus on things that can save us and the work being done towards that end--  plastics policy, MPA's, etc..      The goal is to work in harmony with the big blue before we kill ourselves not portray 70% of our world as broken.  The thinking towards it is what's broken.     Signed, Dinosaur Jr. Thanks for this Nick. I was really displeased with this article as it made the social media rounds.  I’ve done 20,000 nautical and have seen a Sperm Whale breach, had 1,000s of dolphins surf the boat, A minke whale, a humpback, a pod of Blue Whales, squid, petrels, tuna, dorado, jacks, albatross, rainbow runners, myctophids, turtles, etc…   Sure, the baseline has shifted from threats to the ocean but Ivan’s article isn’t helpful—  it basically makes people retreat into even more isolated existences;  they give up on community and environment and focus on insulating the family unit from the horrors of the world.  The ocean isn’t broken, humanity is– and the threats we perceive aren’t actually a threat to the ocean—they are threats to our own well being as humans, indeed, perhaps even our very existence.  Humans may kill themselves off by continuing this path of unlimited growth from finite resources, but the ocean will rebound and forget we ever walked the earth.  The meme of pieces like this need to focus on things that can save us and the work being done towards that end–  plastics policy, MPA’s, etc..   
 
The goal is to work in harmony with the big blue before we kill ourselves not portray 70% of our world as broken.  The thinking towards it is what’s broken.  
 
Signed,
Dinosaur Jr.

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By: artful1designer http://blog.oceanconservancy.org/2013/10/25/hope-over-fear-ocean-is-bruised-and-battered-but-not-broken/#comment-2053 artful1designer Thu, 31 Oct 2013 20:01:28 +0000 http://blog.oceanconservancy.org/?p=6880#comment-2053 ahh to no avail? any ideas? ahh to no avail? any ideas?

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By: artful1designer http://blog.oceanconservancy.org/2013/10/25/hope-over-fear-ocean-is-bruised-and-battered-but-not-broken/#comment-2052 artful1designer Thu, 31 Oct 2013 20:00:12 +0000 http://blog.oceanconservancy.org/?p=6880#comment-2052 Love your articles..I administer a FB group called Baja Natural Amor, we took part in the International Coastal Cleanup in September of this year.. We cleaned a large ravine running to the ocean full of trash. When the heavy rains come it has been noted in the past that there is a wall of trash that is pushed to the sea down this ravine and across the beach.. Would love to find the data on this years cleanup, amount of trash and number of people involved. I see a Facebook like but not a share...the info from your org is the type I would like to keep our members abreast of. I will try the tag feature @ Vive Baja Love your articles..I administer a FB group called Baja Natural Amor, we took part in the International Coastal Cleanup in September of this year.. We cleaned a large ravine running to the ocean full of trash. When the heavy rains come it has been noted in the past that there is a wall of trash that is pushed to the sea down this ravine and across the beach.. Would love to find the data on this years cleanup, amount of trash and number of people involved. I see a Facebook like but not a share…the info from your org is the type I would like to keep our members abreast of. I will try the tag feature @ Vive Baja

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By: Magda Van Goolen http://blog.oceanconservancy.org/2013/10/25/hope-over-fear-ocean-is-bruised-and-battered-but-not-broken/#comment-2048 Magda Van Goolen Sun, 27 Oct 2013 19:04:10 +0000 http://blog.oceanconservancy.org/?p=6880#comment-2048 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIbP9QmrBFU

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By: Magda Van Goolen http://blog.oceanconservancy.org/2013/10/25/hope-over-fear-ocean-is-bruised-and-battered-but-not-broken/#comment-2047 Magda Van Goolen Sun, 27 Oct 2013 18:57:22 +0000 http://blog.oceanconservancy.org/?p=6880#comment-2047 https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-undersigned-call-permanent-law-banning-capture-us-waters-dolphins-whales-public-display/3tXMLzxX https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/we-undersigned-call-permanent-law-banning-capture-us-waters-dolphins-whales-public-display/3tXMLzxX

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By: Nikki Horsman http://blog.oceanconservancy.org/2013/10/25/hope-over-fear-ocean-is-bruised-and-battered-but-not-broken/#comment-2046 Nikki Horsman Sat, 26 Oct 2013 03:30:30 +0000 http://blog.oceanconservancy.org/?p=6880#comment-2046 Always got to have hope, be an optimist and do whatever you can...big or small, without that there is no inspiration for action or change for the better :) Always got to have hope, be an optimist and do whatever you can…big or small, without that there is no inspiration for action or change for the better :)

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By: Courtney Dobbertin http://blog.oceanconservancy.org/2013/10/25/hope-over-fear-ocean-is-bruised-and-battered-but-not-broken/#comment-2032 Courtney Dobbertin Sat, 26 Oct 2013 01:52:49 +0000 http://blog.oceanconservancy.org/?p=6880#comment-2032 This is why I am striving as an environmentalist. Thank you for posting this. Doom and gloom can only get us so far This is why I am striving as an environmentalist. Thank you for posting this. Doom and gloom can only get us so far

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